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- Joey Arnold the process of making paper is and can be better and paper is also better when it is being used and when it is being recycled as well: those are three things to consider
1. making paper
2. using paper
3. recycling/remaking the paper/etc..... - Redant Nguyen Yes, absolutely. And it's the same with plastic. But plastic lasts longer and easier to be recycled, therefore it is better if we use it effectively.
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, plastic is different. Plastic is NOT natural. Paper is natural. Plastic is bad. Paper is good. Plastic is a bad combination of things that do not belong together
- Redant Nguyen natural is not always good Joey Arnold so that's why we create new things. such as computers, facebook and a lot more.... Good or bad is how we use them.
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, natural is good. Some things are good. Some things are bad. It is not just about how you use things. You are talking about a world with no absolutes. I believe in absolutes. I believe that everything is always either right or wrong and not neutral. There is no grey
- Redant Nguyen Again, if we make a good use of resources we can protect the environment. Natural is not always good. for example natural energy such coal, oil, wood ... is not as good as electricity from wind or solar energy, wood boats are not as good as steel or plastic boats. We can not make planes, cars, motorbikes, bikes, spaceships, ships, ..... with natural things like wood. Joey Arnold
- Redant Nguyen Joey Arnold And " everything is always either right or wrong and not neutral. There is no grey " is other category.
- Redant Nguyen Joey Arnold Just have a look at this case: paper clothes or plastic clothes. Plastic clothes can be used for 3 years. If you choose paper clothes and buy new clothes everyday in 3 years you have to buy at least more than 1 thousand clothes. It's wastin...See More
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, there seems to be some fundamental problems with plastic. I think you do not agree with this. It seems that you think that medicine is ok. I think that medicine can be just as bad as plastic is. Fundamentally, there are some structural dilemmas.... we can ask my mother, Marilyn Mitchell
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, recycling means "NO CUT TREES"
- Redant Nguyen Joey Arnold what do you mean? You think I don't know it ? or what did I say makes you believe that I don't know it?
Can you read all my stuff again?
And if you don't agree with any points, please copy any paste them....See More - Redant Nguyen Joey Arnold before recycling paper, where is it from ? not from trees ?
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, I read what you wrote, but it seems that you disagree about the fundamentals to what is what is good and what is bad. Plastic can be bad if it is in fact union of certain chemical or properties in which are not meant to be fused together in the first place. Side effects can occur if certain combinations occur in ways that are more bad....
- Redant Nguyen I wrote it so I know it well. You can't show it, can you? Joey Arnold
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, recycled paper does not come from trees. Plus, plastic comes from some pretty crazy things that are fused together in a crazy way that can be bad depending on different factors: trees are good and cutting down trees is not really as bad ...See More
- Redant Nguyen some kinds of plastic are bad because people make bad plastic, some are good and are used for medical devices.
And there is dirty paper with virus and bacteria besides the good one. ...See More - Joey Arnold How can plastic be good?
- Redant Nguyen it answered it very clearly, just read again.
Can you answer my questions, Joey Arnold ? - Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, you do not know what plastic is. You think that plastic is just a little different than paper. However, that is not true. You have a misconception in what plastic is. You are believing in a lie that is taught globally. All around the wor...See More
- Redant Nguyen Joey Arnold you want to show that you are a smart guy, reading and know more than others, but please, don't be a book worm. What you read may be true but if you talk about how plastic or paper impact people and the environment, you should put everythi...See More
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, touch plastic and think about what it is. It sounds like you are a bookworm. Please do not check your brain at the door. It is not that simple. Again, you are brain washed. You are not thinking. You do not care. You are not listening to ...See More
- Redant Nguyen Joey Arnold it's exactly what I want to say to you, it fits you more than anyone I know.
and even you can't answer or ignore my questions many times.
if you are not that kind why don't you answer my questions ?...See More - Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, what is plastic?
- Redant Nguyen I agree that many kinds of plastic are not good. We should not use them. But the good one we should use. and the same with paper.
And again, do you understand what "using resources effectively" is ? and if you think plastic is bad why are you using it ? - Joey Arnold which are the good kinds of plastic?
- Redant Nguyen they are used for medical devices and for wrapping food.
And again, do you understand what "using resources effectively" is ? and if you think plastic is bad why are you using it ? - Joey Arnold I want to know which plastics are the good kind of plastics. Please tell me about the good kinds of plastic
- Redant Nguyen answer my questions first, I asked you first. If you can't , just say that you don't now. Don't pretend to be smart, guy.
And again, do you understand what "using resources effectively" is ? and if you think plastic is bad why are you using it ? - Joey Arnold You should answer my question. Your question is a bad question. I do not like your question. You are insulting me. You are making fun of me. You are saying bad things about me. You are lying about me. You are saying things that are not true. You are be...See More
- Redant Nguyen if you want a list : here it is http://science.howstuffworks.com/plastic4.htm
http://www.care2.com/greenli.../which-plastics-are-safe.html
http://abunchofgreens.blogspot.com/.../good-plastic-bad...Plastics can be found in a wide variety of products. They are everywhere. Find out how plastics are made and...science.howstuffworks.com - Redant Nguyen you are the one who insulted me first, have a look again, and you ignore my questions many times
- Redant Nguyen Here's what you said first:
Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, touch plastic and think about what it is. It sounds like you are a bookworm. Please do not check your brain at the door. It is not that simple. Again, you are brain washed. You are not thinking....See More - Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, that is not an insult. It is judgement. What I say is truth. What I say is right. I have the legal ground and authority to say what is right. What is right is not insulting. What is right is necessary. I believe in what I say. I believe in what I do. I believe that I am very right. If you don't like me, please leave
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, you are a jerk. I am not insulting. I am being the judge here. I am telling you to listen. Please learn how to explain things. Do not send me a link about what plastic is. Tell me about the good kinds of plastic here in your own words
- Redant Nguyen you disagree with me but you ca not show why i am wrong, where I am wrong.
You never answer my questions means you insult me. I don't insult you. - Redant Nguyen you are not the judge, because you have not showed me you are qualified enough, and you can not answer my questions.
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, I am right because there are no plastic farms and there are no plastic trees
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, cannot, not ca not
- Redant Nguyen it shows nothing. viruses are natural and grow very fast but dangerous.
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, you are not qualified to be in my group: you insult people: you ignore me: your question to me is irrelevant and I answered it already: I am qualified and I am the judge here because this is my group
- Redant Nguyen I know that you can just stick around with some typing mistakes of mine and laugh around , you seem to be so mean and childish
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, I am not talking about viruses. I told you before that this is not about viruses
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, do you want me to block you?
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, this is not a question about using resources efficiently. You can use good things efficiently and more effectively if the resources are good and wholesome: but I am not talking about that
- Redant Nguyen If you think you can not answer my questions you can block me and delete all these stuff. I know you will do it because it shows that you are not a gentleman
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, I have been answering your questions. You are pretending and lying about it. You are a bad person because you refuse to look at my answers. Your question is based on an assumption that plastic is good. You can't ask a question based on an assumption that I disagree with
- Redant Nguyen if you talk about how plastic or paper impact people and the environment, you should put everything in consideration including how they produce it. It's like the case of eating sharks' fins. The action of eating sharks' fins does nothing harm to the ecosystem but in the process of making sharks' fins, they have to kill them. It's the same when trees are cut down to make paper.
- Redant Nguyen you are beating around the bush. you have not answered it.
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- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, plastic comes from sharks? Maybe sometimes, kind of: but that is only part of the story
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, learn how to read
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, you are dumb because you cannot read what I wrote about efficiency
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, you are using copy and paste in order to tell me a bit about sharks
- Redant Nguyen you idiot giving a wrong shit answer
- Redant Nguyen i copied because you did not read or may be read but did not understand
- Joey Arnold I am not talking about that
- Joey Arnold you copied from external sources
- Joey Arnold I read what you wrote
- Redant Nguyen just answer my questions that I've asked you many times
- Joey Arnold if I didn't read it, then I wouldn't know that you repeated it
- Joey Arnold I did
- Joey Arnold read what I wrote
- Joey Arnold you know what I wrote
- Joey Arnold you asked a bad question
- Joey Arnold you think plastic is bad
- Joey Arnold or you think plastic is good
- Redant Nguyen so now I know you read but did not undestand
- Joey Arnold ok, you think plastic is good
- Joey Arnold you are insulting me
- Joey Arnold you are a bad person
- Joey Arnold do not insult me
- Redant Nguyen some is good some is bad , i told you not only once
- Joey Arnold do not say that I don't understand it
- Joey Arnold you say it but you are being vague
- Joey Arnold what you are saying is a joke
- Joey Arnold I asked you which plastic is good
- Joey Arnold you do not say which plastics are good
- Joey Arnold I answered your question
- Redant Nguyen you are a bad lair Joey Arnold and you are trying to show people that you are a gentleman
- Joey Arnold yes, how things are made matter and how we use things matter: we want to be sufficient, effective, and efficient in what we use and how we use it......
- Redant Nguyen what don't you understand ?
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, I am NOT a gentleman and I never said that I am a gentleman: that is not the point here
- Nouman Affaq i hate fights
- Joey Arnold I do not care what you think about me: I care about truth: and truth will tell you that trees are good
- Nouman Affaq so stop fighting if you guys can
- Joey Arnold plastic is not a tree
- Redant Nguyen you are trying to cheat your self and others
- Redant Nguyen you are not qualified to be a teacher
- Joey Arnold how so?
- Nouman Affaq it is neither come from shark nor from tree
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, why are you here? Why are you fighting? why are you trying to kill?
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, I am qualified to do what I do
- Redant Nguyen but not qualified to be a teacher, Joey Arnold because you are cheating your self and others
- Joey Arnold Redant Nguyen, I am a qualified teacher
- Redant Nguyen no you are not Joey Arnold because you are cheating your self and others
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