2016-09-05 HCM Expats Bad Joey Story 01
2016-09-05 Monday 10 PM AC THD Q1 HCM VN Oregon Original Oatmeal L4OJ
2016-09-05 Monday 10 PM AC THD Q1 HCM VN Oregon Original Oatmeal L4OJ
Stories about Joey Arnold Oatmeal, JoeyArnoldVN, as in fabrications, allegations
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People are lying about me on Facebook again in some groups. Sometimes, people think they get messages from me. The messages yesterday (Sunday, the 4th of September 2016) did not come from my Facebook, unless if I was hacked. Sometimes, people make fake profile accounts to attack and spam me. Sometimes, they use my name and profile photo. This happens sometimes. People are making false accusations about me. They are making assumptions without sufficient evidence. They lie about me and add details to stories they know very little about. They say I beg. They say I steal. They say I am crazy. People also say these things about Trump as well. People need to understand the details to the stories they talk about. Instead, they hear stories indirectly from second or third or fourth hand sources from people who only know ten percent of the facts or less. People would lie about Michael Jackson as well. It continues to happen to good people.
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Andrzej Rafael Kyaw is a little harsh, but as someone who not only teaches but also has to do recruitment and training of ESL teachers, he's not entirely wrong. Getting a one page CV in size 16 Comic Sans consisting of a name, age and personal statement....and that being the BEST CV of the day.... is a not uncommon occurrence. And lets not talk about how often we have to remind teachers to do something as simple as NOT WEAR JEANS AND SANDALS TO WORK! There are plenty of good teachers out there....but they are generally outnumbered by the mediocre.
Andrzej Rafael Its not professional, especially not when they are going into a public school representing a private educational institution. Its even less professional when the companies' dress code specifically prohibits it.
Aaron Bean Agreed there are a lot of dipshits here that work as a teacher because they're functionally retarded, but just using "English teacher" as an insult lumps those of us who are capable with those who are not.
Andrzej Rafael True dat, but unfortunately low standards and a huge market mean we often end up with teachers who live up to their reputation as the lowest common denominator. I used to argue vociferously against this....but the last 2 years recruiting have stripped my arguments of much of their force.
Kyaw Tay Zar Aaron, then we need a new term. Dipshits masquerading as teachers cos they can't get anything else?
Alexandre Le Guyader Andrzej Rafael My son is in an international school and i think some of the teachers wear jeans :o Never saw that as an issue, TBH. Making link between the professional sense and the outfit is a little weird to me. My biggest clients are the ones wearing the most casual clothes.
Kyaw Tay Zar Alexandre, it's not jeans that's a problem. Jeans and sandal. I guess. And it is not entirely weird. When you are representing a professional image because your name doesn't precede you or have an outstanding professional reputation, then how you look like matters. If you look like a sloth, then that's what people will take you as.
Kyaw Tay Zar Murphy and Aaron, I would invite you both out for drinks if you guys are up for it. I'm an elite pompous asshole snob but hey, I promise your heads won't explode and you will have a good time catching up. :)
Andrzej Rafael Alexandre: Thats an international school. They have a different set of standards, and their professional image and reputation are built on much heavier financing, good results, control over their own curriculum (within reason) and above all international standards. International schools are expected to have a much more stringent recruiting process (and they often do), with teachers of proven skill with postgrad educational qualifications. The stricter standards, higher pay and more limited jobs mean that you are much more respected and seen as a permanent fixture in an international school.
Basically, if your school is big enough, well recognised enough, and perceived as having high standards, then your teachers can wear more casual clothes because everything ELSE says professional. Sorry if that was a bit long. Its just a different situation
Basically, if your school is big enough, well recognised enough, and perceived as having high standards, then your teachers can wear more casual clothes because everything ELSE says professional. Sorry if that was a bit long. Its just a different situation
Andrzej Rafael As someone who works for an institution that sends teachers out to public schools....they are basically our ONLY marketing and image with the students and parents. They dont seethe offices, the language centers, the resources and materials.....they only see the teachers, and they will judge the whole company based on that. So we have to be strict and careful, as what a teacher wears will significantly affect our relationship with the school and parents in question.
Alexandre Le Guyader Andrzej Rafael Oh i see, pretty interesting. So when your teachers are poorly skilled, better to make them wearing a suit, like that people will think "oh my god they are wearing a suit, they must be high qualified." :p
And your statement is true for other fields too, when you're bill gates or steve jobs, you don't need to wear a suit, because you already have a professional reputation.
Never thought about that before, pretty accurate. The proof is : i never wear a suit :D :D :D and it's even the reason why i created my own company 10 years ago :p
And your statement is true for other fields too, when you're bill gates or steve jobs, you don't need to wear a suit, because you already have a professional reputation.
Never thought about that before, pretty accurate. The proof is : i never wear a suit :D :D :D and it's even the reason why i created my own company 10 years ago :p
Kyaw Tay Zar You are in tech field, Alex. Tech folks are different. Creative field too. Maybe except one of my creatives. He's always in double breasted suit.
Alexandre Le Guyader When you are wearing a huge beard you need to balance that with a double suit :p It is known Khalessi :p
Andrzej Rafael Well, I try to train them so they actually do have the skills, but its more about "oh my godthey are wearing a suit, so they must be professional"
And yeah, if you go to teach at MIT or Harvard you can turn up to class wearing a moo moo if you like......people know your reputation already, so theyll just think youre eccentric. Also as Sam says, being in the tech field people will generally look at your skills first, plus the tech field already has a reputation/image of being much less formal.
Meeting a graphic designer or coder who is wearing casual clothes is no big deal, they work from behind a screen and people will see their work before they see the person. With teachers both happen at the same time.
And yeah, if you go to teach at MIT or Harvard you can turn up to class wearing a moo moo if you like......people know your reputation already, so theyll just think youre eccentric. Also as Sam says, being in the tech field people will generally look at your skills first, plus the tech field already has a reputation/image of being much less formal.
Meeting a graphic designer or coder who is wearing casual clothes is no big deal, they work from behind a screen and people will see their work before they see the person. With teachers both happen at the same time.
Alexandre Le Guyader Except Sam, even if he works in the creative-tech field, he even keeps his suit to sleep !
Aaron Bean Maybe some other time, I doubt I can afford to drink at a place elite snobs would patronize, especially on my meager teachers salary :)
Alexandre Le Guyader Aaron Bean Don't be like that, maybe you're richer than him ! Sam is so poor he needs to get free sofa from other people :p He's living only from the charity :D
(don't kill me Sam, please, i'm too young to die :D )
(don't kill me Sam, please, i'm too young to die :D )
Kyaw Tay Zar Aaron, first sarcasm from you! :D Nah, Broma is rather affordable. Sorae isn't so bad. I don't like Martini Bar at Hyatt because it's just fucking pricey. I'm not about "price" but about what value you get back for what you spend on. Some places are just pricey and look "elite" but jesus, not good places to enjoy your time at.
Kyaw Tay Zar Aaron, on top of that, I have this a bottle a day deal at a few places. Drinks on me, mate. :)
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Jon Myers Again, your antenna must not have been up.
You didn't know it was HIM!
All these precious snowflakes meltin up in the Hoch!
You didn't know it was HIM!
All these precious snowflakes meltin up in the Hoch!
Jon Myers Kyaw Tay Zar we need a Hoch team to welcome new arrivals, wipe their snowflake asses and a Mike Tyson to give a punch in the face as a gentle reminder.
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Fuzz Aldrin Who has the "emergency hair wash" meme? I saw that about two years ago and nearly shat with laughter.
Adam Straub for all of those playing the sjw. i quick search shows he constantly harrasses people and makes hate blogs
Lữ Tài Lân Hello, I'm raising a fund to give police and kick this guy out of my country, please paypal me, all money will go to the police for support and they will do something about this :v
Kyaw Tay Zar Alex Tom, just FYI before you start spouting your SJW nonsense :) I have tracked multiple people of questionable status in Saigon for past 4 years. Joey is one of them.
Threads have been archived and recorded. And as recent as a year ago, you can search here too.
Threads have been archived and recorded. And as recent as a year ago, you can search here too.
Ng Xie What wrong with some ppl always saying:I'm gone call the police and kick u out from Vietnam....
Ng Xie Nguyễn Minh Vũ of course,in Vietnam,Local ppl always right,for any reason u can just kick Foreigner out
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Ryan Reeves And now for your moment of zen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnU3kIOR7vU
Girls must say no & escape environments, cycles, habits, depravity, gravity, situation…
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Adam Straub i mean, i'd feel worse if he wasn't going out targeting people. because he def needs help
Kyaw Tay Zar He writes hate blogs, stole from his generous host, defame them, and oh generally paying back their kindness.
Ryan Reeves Yeah, at this point countless people have attempted to help him. You cannot help someone who is unwilling to be helped. People had gone as far as contacting his family.
Kyaw Tay Zar And his family basically isn't helpful either. People have offered to pay his flights and such to be back home, where he can get proper help.
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Lữ Tài Lân you bought him some food, and gave him some place to sleep, then you will get your answer :)) p/s he will cling to you like a savior, then kick you in the ass when you sleep
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Vance Smith Dude looks like he got bullied hard growing up. He's the way he is because of it or the way he is caused the harassment. Chicken or the egg?
Kyaw Tay Zar Hard to tell, mate. A lot of people befriended him to help but ended up being burned. Hard.
Vance Smith That's rough. He could be somewhere on the aspberger/autism scale. Having that makes life tough. He really needs help from his loved ones.
Kristian Svk Somogyi ^^ yeah, quite obvious where the problems come from.
I'd guess his parents had the same last name when they met already..
I'd guess his parents had the same last name when they met already..
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Scott Gelsthorpe 5 or 6 years ago I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. I have family with mental illness and so I'm maybe more sympathetic on that front. But this guy is more calculating than that and showed his true colours time and time again. He does not take rejection well and thinks the world owes him.
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Nguyễn Minh Vũ Mental illness http://youtu.be/2COGaqF-afY
I slept with her and then I killed her when I was about 14 years old in 1999 in USA.…
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Thomas Weigelt Certain people can't be helped. I feel pity for the guy, but there is nothing one can do. Just wonder how he survived until now.
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Lữ Tài Lân this guy is bad egg, rotten to the core. You guys can read this, come from *the lord of the world* =)) he is bad guy, not mental illnesshttp://joeyarnoldjournal.blogspot.com/.../circle-k-banned...
Aaron Bean Honestly he seems batshit insane, or mildly handicapped. I think it's clear that he had been trying to sleep at the store and probably did steal food, but the way he writes makes me wonder if he's just a nutcase b
Lữ Tài Lân typical scam tactic imo. First he will pretend to be a somewhat poor, honest, has mental illness guy need help etc. then when someone take the bait, he will use them (took money, steal stuffs etc.), and thing happen he go batshit crazy 😱 I don't think a guy with mental illness can do something like that. But well I'm not a doctor, better keep your distance when you see him.
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Garret Nelson He's beyond help, he's pretty much banned from everywhere he goes and is a helpless case. He's nuts. He gets insta banned from any forum he joins and if it was any other country he probably would have been deported. He's in for his own world of trouble, he can't leave the country due to visa overstay.
Sarah Jorgensen Damn.... :/ well, hopefully the more people that know, the less that need to get involved.
Garret Nelson He's a long time issue. It hit tipping point about 9 months ago and he disappeared because of all the blocking and bans.
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Mick Rasmussen How do the Dear Joey survive in Vietnam? Is he teaching English or got any other hidden skills that can bring him enough money to live here?
Lữ Tài Lân Lurking in coffee shop, mart. Meet people on social network, said: I will teach you English etc. then when you meet him, he will try to take money, steal from them, make them buy him foods, drinks. He did steal from circle K before and get caught. Read my comment above.
Christian Krüper Good question, can't imagine that anyone employs him without a short Google/Facebook background check. Well in Vietnam maybe... Parents of the kids he maybe teaches should be warned.
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Len Nguyen I stayed on this thread and watched all the videos posted here haha perfect reading material :))
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Tuyen Hua Actually I wish I didnt know him. Tried to help the kid once then he went batshit crazy. So if you don't know yourself please take your own advice lol.
Tuyen Hua If you read the crap he writes... I suggest you find a better English teacher.
His English is the worse you can learn from. Nevermind his speech impediment, which I actually felt bad about... but I can't even begin to tell you how unqualified he is in even the basics.
What he needed was help... keyword : was
His English is the worse you can learn from. Nevermind his speech impediment, which I actually felt bad about... but I can't even begin to tell you how unqualified he is in even the basics.
What he needed was help... keyword : was
Tuyen Hua It's not like we are insensitive people who haven't tried to understand him or help him... but it has been done and did.
Some say he's crazy, has this syndrome, that disability... whatever... but this joker clearly knows what he's doing and abuses it. When you know you do things to seek attention, even self proclaiming disability, refuse proper help, and use these so called excuses to seek sympathy from honest people... you are nothing more than trash.
You are no different than the fake beggars on the street pretending they have leprosy... no different than street thieves who prey on the unaware.
Some say he's crazy, has this syndrome, that disability... whatever... but this joker clearly knows what he's doing and abuses it. When you know you do things to seek attention, even self proclaiming disability, refuse proper help, and use these so called excuses to seek sympathy from honest people... you are nothing more than trash.
You are no different than the fake beggars on the street pretending they have leprosy... no different than street thieves who prey on the unaware.
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Kyaw Tay Zar Made a mistake of clicking Accept on his message and he immediately sent me this:
LIST OF BIG JOEYARNOLDVN VIETNAM STORIES:
2012 NEW STAR BAC NINH NEAR HANOI STORY
2013 KATHY STOLE MY BIKE STORY
2013 TAN VAN LANGUAGE SCHOOL STORY
2014 PAGODA MONEY STORY
2014 REMI CAFE STORY
2014 CIRCLE K POLICE STORY
2016 ANNA AND THE VISA STORY
LIST OF BIG JOEYARNOLDVN VIETNAM STORIES:
2012 NEW STAR BAC NINH NEAR HANOI STORY
2013 KATHY STOLE MY BIKE STORY
2013 TAN VAN LANGUAGE SCHOOL STORY
2014 PAGODA MONEY STORY
2014 REMI CAFE STORY
2014 CIRCLE K POLICE STORY
2016 ANNA AND THE VISA STORY
Bruno Giegerich lol where can i read all these stories? Half the ppl reading all this have no clue who this guy is. Show them
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Lam Tran re-focus on the question showing the irrelevance of the answer ^^ ex: how is that an answer to save the world?
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David Williams He missed "freelance journalist" from his CV. Which is weird, because when he last sent me a private message (asking if I had wanted to kill him with a drone strike -the mentalist) he told me "I'm a 31 year old freelancer and Soros destroyed Egypt, Ukraine & is funding Clinton". I told him I didn't think the New York Times would be calling him back...then he blocked me.
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David DeCoster "I'm American. I was born in America. I am an American citizen." Redundancy is my job. It's my job to be redundant.
Gary Smith Had the same sh*t when in China. I couldn't understand why a school employed a Scotish lad who had the worst stutter I have ever heard or encountered..... but superb at drilling phonics I would imagine.
Michael Clark Don't know the lad or whats he's done but glad to know that the Ex-pats page is still full of rubbish and a platform to ridicule people. Maybe administrator you should start a sister page to cater for this, would seem right up your alley :(
Richard Taylor Lot of people still think he's an illusion or figment of imagination.
I thought the same and then I saw him around a few times.
I thought the same and then I saw him around a few times.
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Matthew Beeler I seen you talking earlier about having Expats in your sights. I am coming to Saigon to lay low.
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